(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x60 byo-yomi] PW[Zen19X]PB[miao]BR[6d]DT[2016-09-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19X [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19X (white): Zen version 12.0 ]RE[W+15.50] ;B[pd]BL[3594.901]C[pookpooi [?\]: great pookpooi [?\]: where's ingo? ] ;W[dp]WL[3570.847]C[miao [6d\]: gg everyone ] ;B[pq]BL[3577.599]C[gghideki [?\]: gg gghideki [?\]: no Ingo here GoldenBear [1d\]: Good evening to everyone from codecentric! pookpooi [?\]: yay! ] ;W[dd]WL[3534.533]C[pookpooi [?\]: three zen play at the same time, is this the dream? pookpooi [?\]: 9d zen 8d zen 7d zen ] ;B[fq]BL[3451.087]C[Isla [?\]: why not 12.4... is that version unsuitable for Zen19X's hardware? ] ;W[cn]WL[3519.64] ;B[ql]BL[3438.783]C[fluislost [?\]: they wanted to keep 12.0 because that's a version that played in another tournament fluislost [?\]: even though it's hundreds of elo weaker than the latest beast ] ;W[jp]WL[3467.061]C[Isla [?\]: thx i see... ] ;B[lp]BL[3406.937]C[fluislost [?\]: i exagerrated a little bit with "hundreds of elo" pookpooi [?\]: with 12.0, miao is still has a chance to win pookpooi [?\]: and keep the game close and exciting ] ;W[gp]WL[3415.173]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: reason is: the chellange ist one programmer and 12.3 is not, as far as I understood ] ;B[fc]BL[3393.561]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: Hideki, isn't Zen19K the version that comes from the collaboration with Dwango? ] ;W[df]WL[3363.772] ;B[jd]BL[3377.278] ;W[qf]WL[3336.751] ;B[qe]BL[3370.415] ;W[pf]WL[3308.946] ;B[nd]BL[3367.806]C[gghideki [?\]: PN is developed using their GPU servers but no VN is used. ] ;W[pi]WL[3264.875] ;B[oj]BL[3333.326]C[gghideki [?\]: Ah, sorry. that's Zen19X. ] ;W[pj]WL[3216.324]C[gghideki [?\]: Zen19K and K2 is developed by DeeZenGo project ] ;B[pk]BL[3252.087] ;W[ok]WL[3184.695] ;B[nj]BL[3239.97] ;W[ol]WL[3173.245] ;B[qn]BL[3237.752] ;W[ml]WL[3136.222] ;B[nh]BL[3228.804]C[Guest2d [1d\]: so far so good for zen GoldenBear [1d\]: So that actually is the main reason: Zen19K is a very special project; we wanted with the codecentric go challenge to track the development of "regular" or "(near) commercial" go programs. ] ;W[nf]WL[3094.786]C[Gor [2d\]: zen reached kgs 8d,wouldnt it be better to test it against stronger humans? ] ;B[kj]BL[3167.116] ;W[kl]WL[3046.21]C[asdewq [6d\]: so, there is possibility of commercializing zenX, but not ZenK? asdewq [6d\]: @GoldenBear, @gghideki gghideki [?\]: depends on the progress of the project. ] ;B[og]BL[3081.304]C[asdewq [6d\]: I see ] ;W[pe]WL[3006.838] ;B[qd]BL[3072.191] ;W[ne]WL[3006.154]C[gerd [1k\]: zen19k2 is 9d since 15:00 ] ;B[md]BL[3070.8]C[gerd [1k\]: since 3 hours ] ;W[lf]WL[2968.829]C[miao [6d\]: first rule of the fight club: profit by attacking :) GoldenBear [1d\]: Hideki is better suited to answer that question than I am. GoldenBear [1d\]: ... and I am on a bus ride. So if my comments are of sync: This is the reason :-) ] ;B[jf]BL[2930.147]C[miao [6d\]: i want to gain control of the ccenter by fighting against this very suspicious group ] ;W[lh]WL[2923.359] ;B[lk]BL[2899.671] ;W[jg]WL[2879.568]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: Anyone here who can give us win wxpectations from other strong bots? asdewq [6d\]: 46% for b right now (zen 6) ] ;B[ll]BL[2841.535] ;W[lm]WL[2864.681]C[asdewq [6d\]: l7 m6 ] ;B[km]BL[2823.988]C[miao [6d\]: j14 should be the move i am hoping to play after fighting here ] ;W[ln]WL[2834.626] ;B[jl]BL[2814.106]C[miao [6d\]: reviving f4 potentionally asdewq [6d\]: l6 k7 o4 - 57% ] ;W[kn]WL[2797.511] ;B[jm]BL[2811.953]C[asdewq [6d\]: or p5 instead of o4 ] ;W[po]WL[2751.664]C[miao [6d\]: WOW GoldenBear [1d\]: asdewq: thanks for giving us valuations! miao [6d\]: hard to keep pressure going here miao [6d\]: or to get any consessions asdewq [6d\]: sure :) asdewq [6d\]: r5 q4 r4 p3 p4 - 57% Guest2d [1d\]: result of b overplay at lower side asdewq [6d\]: it's interesting how Zen manages to mess black's side of the board, but the left side is untouched K5 [5k?\]: w is sente machine asdewq [6d\]: w's goal is to play j14 ] ;B[qo]BL[2499.349] ;W[pp]WL[2736.764] ;B[qp]BL[2497.131] ;W[oq]WL[2721.752]C[K5 [5k?\]: R4 better at R3?? asdewq [6d\]: p3 q2 j14 59% ] ;B[op]BL[2485.003]C[miao [6d\]: if q2 o3 p6 i think black is fine ] ;W[np]WL[2670.224] ;B[oo]BL[2466.137]C[tinca [-\]: none of them, so? miao [6d\]: i didn´t expect this ] ;W[pn]WL[2638.672] ;B[nq]BL[2445.399]C[tinca [-\]: is that a reason for zen becoming strong? ] ;W[or]WL[2615.744]C[tinca [-\]: I mean unexpected, but good moves? ] ;B[pr]BL[2438.727] ;W[nr]WL[2600.996]C[Guest2d [1d\]: sure tinca [-\]: g4 is one those moves asdewq [6d\]: q2 very bad - 61% ] ;B[mq]BL[2332.402] ;W[mr]WL[2576.523]C[Gor [2d\]: so w wants to squeeze and take sente? sampard [2k?\]: w ants to kill all in gote pokamon [2k\]: b connect underneath? Gor [2d\]: m2 should be enough Gor [2d\]: or not ibd2 [?\]: If you had to describe this game so far using an animal, what animal would it be ibd2 [?\]: ? Guest2d [1d\]: w has n4 pookpooi [?\]: human K5 [5k?\]: An endolith ] ;B[nn]BL[2158.781]C[gzz [3d\]: m2 not so good, then n4 and there is no connection underneath ] ;W[pm]WL[2561.052] ;B[lr]BL[2139.872]C[miao [6d\]: good for white ] ;W[qm]WL[2521.848] ;B[rm]BL[2136.958]C[asdewq [6d\]: s7 r9 - 60 miao [6d\]: maybe miao [6d\]: :) asdewq [6d\]: l3 m3 r9 6 asdewq [6d\]: *63 ] ;W[qk]WL[2472.876]C[miao [6d\]: solving two problems while maintaining aji ] ;B[rl]BL[2133.165] ;W[pl]WL[2472.392] ;B[ch]BL[2063.012]C[miao [6d\]: j14 is huge miao [6d\]: but i want to play active miao [6d\]: also n5 is much bigger than it looks Zonked [3d\]: n4 m3 p6 o5 n5? is small because b squeezes under? Zonked [3d\]: ah, nvm ] ;W[mk]WL[2419.344]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: @asdewq: The numbers you give us are always win percentages for Black? ] ;B[mj]BL[2026.008]C[asdewq [6d\]: percentage for w ] ;W[li]WL[2394.383]C[asdewq [6d\]: the first one was for b, but the rest is for w miao [6d\]: white is un comfortable with points ] ;B[lj]BL[2022.858]C[miao [6d\]: so now he is attacking my center ] ;W[if]WL[2351.244] ;B[jn]BL[1923.077]C[miao [6d\]: n5 is getting big again ] ;W[mo]WL[2307.916] ;B[on]BL[1914.313]C[miao [6d\]: anyway black is fine here ] ;W[kq]WL[2253.225] ;B[lq]BL[1910.468]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: why not using 12.4 to fight miao? ] ;W[kr]WL[2202.218] ;B[ms]BL[1906.139]C[miao [6d\]: d3 is the most sturdy move now pookpooi [?\]: official answer is long, short answer is 12.0 can handle him fine pookpooi [?\]: scroll up to see official answer ] ;W[gd]WL[2164.312]C[miao [6d\]: wow miao [6d\]: locally very good Kotonoha [2d\]: why he behave like YoungPro while playing? Jermelle [?\]: LOL ^ tinca [-\]: g16, g4 tinca [-\]: self commenting is nice, I like it NiceGoAuth [-\]: perhaps he get paid better if commenting :) tinca [-\]: bot can not do that ] ;B[ck]BL[1722.199]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: hmmm, cs is doing nice analysises miao [6d\]: i am looking at c3 or f4 Guest2d [1d\]: bot can only tell u numbers ] ;W[gc]WL[2119.403]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: just wait another 2 years and it is doing nice comments tinca [-\]: what we humans tell him to tell us Jermelle [?\]: I'd like to see what a bot "thinks" sampard [2k?\]: 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 NiceGoAuth [-\]: eg my cnn says, it is looking at c3 and f4 :) ] ;B[fp]BL[1573.019]C[K5 [5k?\]: Easy to program a bot to comment K5 [5k?\]: But has not been a piority so far ] ;W[go]WL[2104.664]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: and it has chosen f4 too .... pokamon [2k\]: are there any percentage? asdewq [6d\]: 57 for w ] ;B[dr]BL[1518.27]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: I have even snowmen [1d\]: 58%_ pokamon [2k\]: so b doing well ] ;W[cq]WL[2052.679]C[miao [6d\]: maybe not the cleanest way to play here but thats my style ] ;B[cr]BL[1480.605]C[asdewq [6d\]: 59 miao [6d\]: the center is bothering me slightly miao [6d\]: but k3 is still sufficient aji i bleive asdewq [6d\]: g3 ] ;W[gq]WL[2015.947] ;B[gr]BL[1369.512]C[miao [6d\]: c17 is the next valuable move to play ] ;W[hr]WL[1979.795]C[asdewq [6d\]: b3 b4 d3 c4 b2 f2 -58....g2 h2 f2 b2 -65 ] ;B[fr]BL[1365.2] ;W[gl]WL[1938.497]C[jeunepouss [8k?\]: can someone explain me about the percentage ? ] ;B[jo]BL[1322.821]C[snowmen [1d\]: 58% was calculated by Zen Version 2012 jeunepouss [8k?\]: 58% of what ? ] ;W[kp]WL[1897.562] ;B[ko]BL[1318.715]C[inte [?\]: of playouts, typically snowmen [1d\]: winnin probability of white ] ;W[br]WL[1848.718] ;B[dq]BL[1313.728]C[xibalba000 [6k\]: is w fine on the right? miao [6d\]: this move helps me to be surely alive ] ;W[cp]WL[1824.664]C[miao [6d\]: before there was some e3 aji ] ;B[es]BL[1309.03]C[asdewq [6d\]: b13 - 60 miao [6d\]: now everything is round about alive ] ;W[bg]WL[1777.892] ;B[fo]BL[1292.721]C[miao [6d\]: white is attacking well miao [6d\]: but he has made some bad exchanges miao [6d\]: so i will try to counter atttack and get sente ] ;W[fn]WL[1733.38]C[miao [6d\]: especially iwht b15 looming miao [6d\]: *with miao [6d\]: white is so weak around g4 miao [6d\]: f7 is a way to play here maybe pokamon [2k\]: does b think ervey b group is alive or he willing to sacfrice some? ] ;B[fk]BL[1064.981]C[miao [6d\]: i will ask this first miao [6d\]: :) miao [6d\]: b12 seems most principled now ibd2 [?\]: B so polite ibd2 [?\]: Asking first ] ;W[gk]WL[1693.745]C[inte [?\]: nothing looks dead yet, except w's four stones at the bottom KlausB [?\]: and B f17? inte [?\]: right but that stone must have a ton of aji ibd2 [?\]: Are you Klaus p? KlausB [?\]: No ... ] ;B[fm]BL[949.463]C[ibd2 [?\]: E11 miao [6d\]: i wonder how white will answer gerd [1k\]: how does b answer m5 p1 n7 now? ] ;W[gn]WL[1657.765]C[miao [6d\]: can i play g10? ] ;B[bh]BL[915.331]C[miao [6d\]: maybe too risky miao [6d\]: i feel good here miao [6d\]: so i just defend ] ;W[lo]WL[1610.494] ;B[os]BL[906.27] ;W[mm]WL[1610.064]C[inte [?\]: we get to find out ibd2 [?\]: R12? resusou: Zen19X=9d? fluislost [?\]: no fluislost [?\]: 7 or 8d ] ;B[ij]BL[811.372] ;W[fj]WL[1565.277]C[resusou: oh, it is a fast player ] ;B[bm]BL[748.598]C[K5 [5k?\]: K5 status? ] ;W[cm]WL[1514.885]C[ibd2 [?\]: In danger asdewq [6d\]: 65% right now K5 [5k?\]: w so thick nearby. feels like j9 might be a danger point Guest2d [1d\]: 65% ? i don't think zen is that much ahead inte [?\]: maybe the center survives only 35% of its playouts ] ;B[jh]BL[524.266]C[sampard [2k?\]: how "much" is "65%" ?? miao [6d\]: k11 is stronger than i thought ] ;W[je]WL[1494.214]C[pookpooi [?\]: b might have a surprise endgame like in game 1, but we'll see if he can pull out fast enough asdewq [6d\]: such surprsing edgames are not easy to make in every game Guest2d [1d\]: b has more sercurred territory ] ;B[bn]BL[433.446]C[inte [?\]: the 65% is pretty meaningless. it's supposed to be a probability that zen wins, of sorts, but basically all you can do with the number is say that it feels ahead, but not terribly secure in its win yet yoyoma [1d\]: 65% for a bot is very large pookpooi [?\]: for bot like alphago ;) ] ;W[cl]WL[1457.948] ;B[bl]BL[431.019]C[asdewq [6d\]: c8 - 69% sampard [2k?\]: ah, "large" mean what exactly? yoyoma [1d\]: I dunno about Zen but CrazyStone 65% is significant yoyoma [1d\]: 70% would be a resignable game ] ;W[dk]WL[1438.145] ;B[dj]BL[395.753]C[asdewq [6d\]: depending against whom you're playing wth ] ;W[ej]WL[1399.806]C[tinca [-\]: the % is just an opinion :-) ] ;B[dl]BL[392.614]C[snowmen [1d\]: 70 % ] ;W[ek]WL[1367.09] ;B[co]BL[386.852] ;W[do]WL[1363.68] ;B[bo]BL[384.535]C[yoyoma [1d\]: I actually haven't looked much at the game... but at a glance black has some good territory ] ;W[en]WL[1318.141]C[yoyoma [1d\]: Is white really leading? ] ;B[hm]BL[354.223]C[yoyoma [1d\]: some human player count for us I'm too lazy :) inte [?\]: c10 nothing? Guoyl [2k\]: b~60 points ] ;W[cj]WL[1284.495] ;B[bk]BL[349.607] ;W[di]WL[1284.055]C[snowman [-\]: 65% ] ;B[em]BL[344.695]C[Guoyl [2k\]: w's points are harder to count ] ;W[dn]WL[1246.672]C[Guest2d [1d\]: ajis.. asdewq [6d\]: d6 g7 b10 - 77 ] ;B[bp]BL[322.638]C[GodofGo [6d\]: not sure what b is doing tinca [-\]: b cant give away b10 GodofGo [6d\]: why h7.. ] ;W[gm]WL[1210.125]C[sampard [2k?\]: thought its sente snowman [-\]: some problems with the timing, it seems GodofGo [6d\]: whut sampard [2k?\]: and finally ;-) pookpooi [?\]: maybe miao really needs more time? snowmen [1d\]: b10 is forced pookpooi [?\]: his maintime will empty before 150 moves! asdewq [6d\]: c17 looks nice right now sampard [2k?\]: or b3 and aji c17 Guoyl [2k\]: b10 big, but is it really forced (b3 connects)? NiceGoAuth [-\]: r12? tinca [-\]: b10 is sente many points for w ] ;B[dc]BL[117.229]C[pokamon [2k\]: this can be ko? asdewq [6d\]: 73% ] ;W[cc]WL[1175.962]C[snowmen [1d\]: white has too many ko threads pokamon [2k\]: 73 for b? asdewq [6d\]: for w Guest2d [1d\]: ok now i believe zen ] ;B[ed]BL[63.294] ;W[db]WL[1142.953]C[KlausB [?\]: @Guest2d: mustn't that be 'believe in Zen'??? snowmen [1d\]: zen playing pro level NiceGoAuth [-\]: ok, probably r12 not working, so it might be panic move suggested ] ;B[eb]BL[6.332] ;W[ec]WL[1142.424] ;B[qh]BL[60]OB[3]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: :) ] ;W[ph]WL[1113.461] ;B[dc]BL[60]OB[3]C[Guest2d [1d\]: so b can resign? ] ;W[ik]WL[1072.173] ;B[jk]BL[60]OB[3] ;W[ii]WL[1046.766]C[asdewq [6d\]: j8 ] ;B[hk]BL[60]OB[3]C[miao [6d\]: oh miao [6d\]: k11 was maybe smarter ] ;W[hj]WL[1001.89] ;B[il]BL[60]OB[3]C[asdewq [6d\]: k11 or b10 asdewq [6d\]: both 7% asdewq [6d\]: *75 ] ;W[ji]WL[956.233] ;B[ki]BL[60]OB[3]C[pokamon [2k\]: upper left now good for b tinca [-\]: I want to see how these percentages go astray ] ;W[ih]WL[915.942]C[asdewq [6d\]: j12 -77 ] ;B[hn]BL[60]OB[3]C[trohde [?\]: was hoping for H6 … otherwise no 2nd eye, right? jeunepouss [8k?\]: K10 before H6, no ? tinca [-\]: with every therat b is losing points while not improving at ko ] ;W[ec]WL[876.802]C[snowmen [1d\]: black resigning soon ] ;B[rh]BL[60]OB[3]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: miao really needs to make sth happen here ] ;W[pg]WL[843.335]C[asdewq [6d\]: q13 d17 b10 - 78 ibd2 [?\]: He did similar stuff the first 2 games^^ don't worry ] ;B[dc]BL[60]OB[3]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: and he lost the econd one ] ;W[io]WL[814.207]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: also, I dont think percentages were ever as bad as 78% against him Schachus12 [3k\]: and even without a clear idea, where bot might be misreading ibd2 [?\]: You're right ] ;B[in]BL[60]OB[3] ;W[ec]WL[813.609]C[ibd2 [?\]: Everybody is saying short time favors the bot, but Zen has no problems keeping up here ibd2 [?\]: With these longer settings yoyoma [1d\]: but there's a ko!! :) ] ;B[nk]BL[60]OB[3]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: on short time, he would maybe crush miao harder ] ;W[nl]WL[796.964] ;B[dc]BL[60]OB[3]C[KlausB [?\]: miao would crush himself harder ... ] ;W[bj]WL[779.895] ;B[bq]BL[60]OB[3]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: which is more or less the same;) ] ;W[ec]WL[758.864]C[KlausB [?\]: I doubt the timefactor would change the comps play very much ] ;B[ke]BL[60]OB[2]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: exacly, but risk of miao misreading would be much higher ] ;W[kf]WL[758.179] ;B[dc]BL[60]OB[2]C[pookpooi [?\]: I don't know, miao won in the first game so I think time control matters, longer game favors human ] ;W[mp]WL[731.936] ;B[ns]BL[60]OB[2]C[pookpooi [?\]: miao lost h2 game to zen19k ] ;W[ec]WL[717.181] ;B[me]BL[60]OB[2]C[miao [6d\]: oh this is not a threat ] ;W[mf]WL[698.278] ;B[dc]BL[60]OB[2]C[elsky [1d\]: it was :-)) ] ;W[ee]WL[671.483] ;B[ic]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[ec]WL[627.143] ;B[aj]BL[60]OB[1]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: I have to leave now. In a few hours, the game will be online at go.codecentric. de. ] ;W[ai]WL[605.688] ;B[dc]BL[60]OB[1]C[sampard [2k?\]: oh come on GoldenBear [1d\]: Round 4 of the codecentric go challenge will be played on the 18th September. ] ;W[fd]WL[577.493] ;B[gb]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[ec]WL[552.153]C[asdewq [6d\]: 86% Schachus12 [3k\]: it's just over Schachus12 [3k\]: upper left way too big ] ;B[ak]BL[60]OB[1]C[snowmen [1d\]: no way for b to win in yose inte [?\]: g13 territory is so big ] ;W[bi]WL[537.375] ;B[rf]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[hb]WL[528.443] ;B[hc]BL[60]OB[1]C[asdewq [6d\]: 91% ] ;W[le]WL[492.286]C[inte [?\]: and bots are so strong at endgame... ] ;B[kd]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[ld]WL[470.234] ;B[lc]BL[60]OB[1]C[nonosse [2k\]: hum i m not sure that bots are always better as humans in endgame ] ;W[ib]WL[455.459] ;B[jb]BL[60]OB[1]C[nonosse [2k\]: i think some humans are quite expert too ] ;W[fb]WL[440.657] ;B[rj]BL[60]OB[1]C[miao [6d\]: horrible second half for black ] ;W[rk]WL[405.987] ;B[sk]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[qi]WL[383.356] ;B[ri]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[hd]WL[368.63] ;B[ia]BL[60]OB[1]C[tinca [-\]: j2 ] ;W[ga]WL[348.015] ;B[kh]BL[60]OB[1]C[gzz [3d\]: w can play l17 ] ;W[id]WL[320.622] ;B[jc]BL[60]OB[1]C[EdhelDil [4k\]: l17 had m18 Thundergod [6d\]: l17 was nothing ] ;W[ho]WL[290.332] ;B[ir]BL[60]OB[1]C[sampard [2k?\]: to late ] ;W[hs]WL[261.836] ;B[iq]BL[60]OB[1]C[nonosse [2k\]: L17 may just help keep sente? or it s just same without playing it? ] ;W[is]WL[234.669]C[nonosse [2k\]: w can wedge a lot around there ] ;B[ks]BL[60]OB[1]C[jeunepouss [8k?\]: how many points is w ahead ? Schachus12 [3k\]: a bit more than 10 I think ] ;W[jr]WL[207.777] ;B[gs]BL[60]OB[1]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: more Important is: no opportunity to mess up for the bot ] ;W[js]WL[177.539]C[pookpooi [?\]: miao is under time pressure, this will not occur if the time setting is longer ] ;B[kg]BL[60]OB[1]C[miao [6d\]: horrible KlausB [?\]: l13 directly ... ] ;W[lg]WL[134.77]C[KlausB [?\]: sorry, m13 pookpooi [?\]: zen now has 97% tinca [-\]: soon 101 ] ;B[od]BL[60]OB[1]C[Schachus12 [3k\]: isnt that more or less the same, KlausB KlausB [?\]: 1 point better tinca [-\]: prehaps ovweflows to -1 and resigns nonosse [2k\]: would love to have more details on the 3% Schachus12 [3k\]: why, where is that point pookpooi [?\]: 3% is zen misclick 'resign' ] ;W[qg]WL[90.138] ;B[rg]BL[60]OB[1]C[EdhelDil [4k\]: only 3pct of playouts loses. KlausB [?\]: ok, right, you re correct nonosse [2k\]: that s not details as i mean it KlausB [?\]: wishfiul thinking ... ] ;W[jj]WL[50.074]C[ibd2 [?\]: Zen dominated this one... ] ;B[ep]BL[60]OB[1]C[pookpooi [?\]: I hope codecentric next year will limit go program to run on mobile phone pookpooi [?\]: to test the power efficiency asdewq [6d\]: hahha ibd2 [?\]: ^ +1 gghideki [?\]: maybe 3% is cutting bumboo joint nonosse [2k\]: non no i dont use mobile phone ] ;W[ik]WL[9.993] ;B[hl]BL[60]OB[1]C[nonosse [2k\]: a thx gghideki that gives me an idea ibd2 [?\]: Will chargers be allowed ;) these things can burn quickly, looking at Pokemon go pookpooi [?\]: crazystone reach 6d on nexus 5, that's quite amazing enough ] ;W[ng]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[oh]BL[60]OB[1]C[pookpooi [?\]: but it's drain faster power than it can charge lol ] ;W[mh]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[ls]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[ij]WL[60]OW[3]C[ibd2 [?\]: B + time in the end?! ] ;B[oi]BL[60]OB[1]C[ibd2 [?\]: Finally ] ;W[mi]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[kk]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[ha]WL[60]OW[3]C[nonosse [2k\]: ? all that time for that? ] ;B[ja]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[of]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[qj]BL[60]OB[1]C[nonosse [2k\]: so mow should be 99% ] ;W[pk]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[oq]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[oe]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[no]BL[60]OB[1]C[miao [6d\]: the biggest loss was d17 miao [6d\]: the aji was too bad there ] ;W[mn]WL[60]OW[3]C[miao [6d\]: maybe by play in the center was worse though ] ;B[nm]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[om]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[ni]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[eo]WL[60]OW[3] ;B[]BL[60]OB[1] ;W[]WL[60]OW[3]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ab][bb][cb][eb][gb][ac][bc][dc][fc][ad][bd][cd][ed][ae][be][ce][de][fe][ge][he][ie][af][bf][cf][ef][ff][gf][hf][jf][ag][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][ig][mg][ah][bh][ch][dh][eh][fh][gh][hh][ci][ei][fi][gi][hi][dj][gj][fk][dl][el][fl][dm][em][fm][hp][ip][hq][iq][jq][ir]TB[ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][kb][lb][mb][nb][ob][pb][qb][rb][sb][kc][mc][nc][oc][pc][qc][rc][sc][rd][sd][re][se][sf][sg][sh][si][sj][al][kl][sl][am][im][sm][an][rn][sn][ao][ro][so][ap][rp][sp][aq][eq][qq][rq][sq][ar][br][er][mr][nr][or][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][fs][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[miao [6d\]: oh gghideki [?\]: Thanks miao [6d\]: i even miscounted by 4 miao [6d\]: :( trohde [?\]: thanks to everybody involved! miao [6d\]: not my day miao [6d\]: thx pookpooi [?\]: you're under time pressure pookpooi [?\]: need more main time gghideki [?\]: yah, really resusou: nice miao [6d\]: true trohde [?\]: we love you nevertheless, miao ;-) gghideki [?\]: Ok, it's 3:20 am in Japan. Good night all! miao [6d\]: with 30 minutes more i am much stronger miao [6d\]: but well trohde [?\]: g’night miao [6d\]: sleep well miao [6d\]: :) gghideki [?\]: :) pookpooi [?\]: bye everyone ;) nice match trohde [?\]: looking forward to the next game ])