(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[fj]PB[CrazyStone]WR[6d]DT[2014-10-04]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[CrazyStone [-\]: GTP Engine for CrazyStone (black): Crazy Stone version http://remi.coulom.free.fr/CrazyStone/
fj [6d\]: ok, have a good game ^^
rsun [5d\]: fj should win the match
rsun [5d\]: although cs may win 1 game, that's what I would expect
]RE[B+1.50]
;B[pp]BL[3561.543]C[rsun [5d\]: unless remi did some secret cool stuff over the past few months ;)
firstkyu [5d?\]: Go FJ !
]
;W[eq]WL[3572.236]C[rsun [5d\]: q4 should be at q16 for etiquette
firstkyu [5d?\]: bot does not know about that...
rsun [5d\]: it's a one-liner code
]
;B[pd]BL[3523.12]C[Hannoskaj [?\]: I think that unless CS has really made some progress, it will be 3-0, but I would be glad to be wrong!
yoyoma [1d\]: I didn't notice it before, does Zen open in upper right?
rsun [5d\]: zen does
firstkyu [5d?\]: jup
MaLa [4d\]: looking at FJs results in the last months...
]
;W[de]WL[3547.155]C[MaLa [4d\]: I don't see a 3-0
rsun [5d\]: if fj wins this game, he will get cocky ;)
firstkyu [5d?\]: good joseki choice here
pole33 [1d\]: go CrazyStone! Show him!
testingx [1d\]: its a 3-0 for crazystone :-)
rsun [5d\]: if he loses the first game, he will use normal fuseki lol
]
;B[pj]BL[3484.808]C[ron [4d?\]: bad opening for B
Javaness [2d\]: I think fj can learn how to beat it
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;W[nc]WL[3533.515]C[RemiCoulom [3k?\]: CS used to open in upper right. But Unbalance did not use the same coordinates as I do. Because they wanted their app to open in the right corner, I had to make it open in the bottom right.
rsun [5d\]: it looks like a moyo vs moyo combat
pepito [5k\]: what is the crazy stone s level
rsun [5d\]: oic
ron [4d?\]: b moyo doesn't work because of e3 
firstkyu [5d?\]: thx Remi
rsun [5d\]: b moyo always works
]
;B[lc]BL[3446.411]C[rsun [5d\]: it is ruthless
Hannoskaj [?\]: pepito: 5 or 6d kgs.
ron [4d?\]: r16 
]
;W[qc]WL[3504.662]C[rsun [5d\]: r16 is hamete
ron [4d?\]: r17 bad
firstkyu [5d?\]: no
ron [4d?\]: yes
firstkyu [5d?\]: no
ron [4d?\]: yes
yrirt: no
GoIngo [?\]: give arguments please
sirius007: lol
ron [4d?\]: now b r16 
testingx [1d\]: no
]
;B[qd]BL[3407.484]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: its played by pros
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;W[pc]WL[3498.15]C[rsun [5d\]: this is equal result, no good or bad
firstkyu [5d?\]: so it can be too bad
pepito [5k\]: crazy stone is strong but it is a robot 
]
;B[od]BL[3387.617]C[rsun [5d\]: o16 is trendy
Lumpenhund [5d\]: p16 o16?  
rsun [5d\]: latest fashion
Lumpenhund [5d\]: y
misao [7d\]: What is CrazyStone?
ron [4d?\]: just o18 and approach the corner
misao [7d\]: I only know that is LeeSedol's nickname 
rsun [5d\]: CS is a 6d bot, who is playing as b
]
;W[nb]WL[3455.127]C[misao [7d\]: oh..
rsun [5d\]: sedol's nickname is just "stone"
misao [7d\]: not him LeeSedol?
]
;B[me]BL[3368.099]C[misao [7d\]: no, he is a crazy stone 
ron [4d?\]: o3 
MaLa [4d\]: no, LSD does not waste his time playing fungames on KGS
MrMouse [1d\]: crazybot
misao [7d\]: old japanese fuseki :)
rsun [5d\]: o3 is normal, but fj may do some special stuff
]
;W[kp]WL[3430.82]C[Soyann [3k\]: lsd lol
ron [4d?\]: good move too
rsun [5d\]: n4 is bot's normal move
ron [4d?\]: good opening for w
]
;B[cp]BL[3329.783]C[rsun [5d\]: d5 means moyo combat
pepito [5k\]: taisha?
keiler [?\]: FJ likes to play against san ren sei :-)
rsun [5d\]: taisha not necessary
firstkyu [5d?\]: both play fast so far
Destrudo [2d?\]: c4 mistake
rsun [5d\]: of course he can do that for fun
ron [4d?\]: d5 possible
ron [4d?\]: will probably play a pincer tho
rsun [5d\]: d5 is simple
rsun [5d\]: depends on fj's style
misao [7d\]: Is this a tournament?
rsun [5d\]: no
rsun [5d\]: just showcase
MaLa [4d\]: it is a BO5 showmatch with some money involved
Hannoskaj [?\]: Yes, interesting time management from CS. Often bots take a huge amount of time in the first moves.
misao [7d\]: rsun 's games are more interesting
]
;W[do]WL[3341.816]C[rsun [5d\]: :o are you kidding me
misao [7d\]: no :)
pepito [5k\]: c5
misao [7d\]: Be confident master
]
;B[co]BL[3304.514]C[Hannoskaj [?\]: Do you have some kind of "easy move" code, Rémi?
rsun [5d\]: you watched my experimental fuseki games?
]
;W[dm]WL[3329.203]C[rsun [5d\]: otherwise, most of my games look all the same
ron [4d?\]: good strategy against bot
ron [4d?\]: to play for center
ron [4d?\]: bots are only good at moyo games
rsun [5d\]: bots are also good at moyo combat
]
;B[dn]BL[3265.882]C[rsun [5d\]: I often fail at moyo vs moyo
]
;W[en]WL[3323.721]C[rsun [5d\]: but fj will do better, I'm sure
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;B[cn]BL[3245.773]C[rsun [5d\]: e7 would be thick
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;W[cl]WL[3315.476]C[misao [7d\]: CS is the wisest bot that never play handicap games against lowerers ( lesser )
ofbusy [3d\]: c8 should be winning move :)
rsun [5d\]: c8 is thin
misao [7d\]: brute move over a bot ! 
]
;B[dq]BL[3206.672]C[rsun [5d\]: but shows fj values the left side formation more than the center
rsun [5d\]: which is quite reasonable
rsun [5d\]: but then, why not pincer in the first place?
Lumpenhund [5d\]: d3 ok?
]
;W[fp]WL[3249.097]
;B[em]BL[3187.148]C[ofbusy [3d\]: i dont like b s result
rsun [5d\]: fuseki ended at move 25
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;W[fn]WL[3223.251]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: guess FJ wanted this fight
Hatate [1k\]: rsun life ended at 26
rsun [5d\]: a typical rsun-bot game is like 50 move fuseki + 200 move yose
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;B[cj]BL[3148.429]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: and you gain 20 point in fuseki
rs220675 [1d\]: may the streetfight begin^^
firstkyu [5d?\]: and try not to lose all of them?
rsun [5d\]: yes, but my midgame is weak
]
;W[el]WL[3187.337]C[ron [4d?\]: c8 bad I think
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;B[fm]BL[3109.639]C[rsun [5d\]: c8 is a bit overplay
yrirt: no
Lumpenhund [5d\]: joseki
rsun [5d\]: ok
]
;W[gm]WL[3169.533]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: oh
liangyan [5d\]: f7 seems bad
rsun [5d\]: in any case, it does seem like fj is testing the bot a bit
firstkyu [5d?\]: g7 realy joseki???
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;B[fl]BL[3089.841]C[keiler [?\]: joseki, if this ladder works?
]
;W[ek]WL[3166.866]C[liangyan [5d\]: b effectively cutting two strong groups
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;B[gl]BL[3062.964]
;W[hm]WL[3158.237]C[rsun [5d\]: yes, that's when the magic happens ;) if you're not careful
pole33 [1d\]: white has a very strong picture
ron [4d?\]: pity the bot can't see it
yrirt: black is so bad
rsun [5d\]: h10 is shape
]
;B[cm]BL[3024.026]
;W[dl]WL[3152.367]C[ron [4d?\]: uh
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;B[hl]BL[3003.935]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: crazy's tone
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;W[il]WL[3139.971]C[wolokom [5k\]: h 9
rsun [5d\]: Crazy St. One
]
;B[hj]BL[2983.717]C[taoer [8k\]: crazyst one
m09 [21k\]: is fj a professionnal or amateur player?
rsun [5d\]: latter
GoIngo [?\]: german amateur
Warfreak2 [4d\]: he is kgs 6d, what do you think?
]
;W[ei]WL[3101.778]C[rsun [5d\]: Yang Huiren 1p is kgs 6d
yrirt: kgs 6d is around 9p?
m09 [21k\]: well maybe it was just that he didn't play any game there, not sure :o\]
]
;B[fj]BL[2963.332]C[Goprince [5d\]: lol guys...
rsun [5d\]: b is trading the left and bottom with the center
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;W[di]WL[3054.387]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: w got tons of cutting points
firstkyu [5d?\]: lets see if the bot can work with them
rsun [5d\]: I suspect cs will just j9
Lumpenhund [5d\]: hm d11?
]
;B[gh]BL[2923.659]C[ofbusy [3d\]: j9 is reasonnable
MaLa [4d\]: dont like E11+d11
woebegone [-\]: g6 overplay?
]
;W[nq]WL[3039.795]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: d11 leaves more cottung points
MaLa [4d\]: aji at B8 is annoying
Lumpenhund [5d\]: some aji around c9 b8 ?
]
;B[im]BL[2904.37]C[rsun [5d\]: now w will have to swim
]
;W[ho]WL[3025.065]C[ofbusy [3d\]: this cut is interesting
firstkyu [5d?\]: some aji yes, but unclear
Goprince [5d\]: sure but if just conect at e10 also easy for  that b stone
GoIngo [?\]: se says: Blakc +14,5
rs220675 [1d\]: IMO w should have fixed the cut instead of o3
GoIngo [?\]: Black
lepore [1d\]: sorry i missed something - what is the significance of this match?
]
;B[fg]BL[2865.851]C[ofbusy [3d\]: its a best of three match
firstkyu [5d?\]: its human agains bot - the ultimate challenge
]
;W[dg]WL[3005.232]C[pole33 [1d\]: after this match mankind will be better
GoIngo [?\]: best of 5 match
misao [7d\]: not donkey against  bot? 
Lumpenhund [5d\]: w o3 or b n3 ver big
Goprince [5d\]: not clear w will win this
yrirt: duck vs bot
firstkyu [5d?\]: monkey you mean?
Hannoskaj [?\]: First match on even between a really strong Western amateur and a bot.
mundus [2d?\]: moyo fight
lepore [1d\]: ok but why is KGS advertising this like they do with tournaments?
]
;B[jl]BL[2827.509]C[Goprince [5d\]: k7 and can still live in bottom
GoIngo [?\]: lepore: read the website and you will see
ron [4d?\]: bot going for moyo in the center, as expected
maproomad [-\]: becasue it is a significant and interesting match - which you can watch live on KGS
firstkyu [5d?\]: if b just gets this stone I prefer black
Lumpenhund [5d\]: r6?
Goprince [5d\]: w wil not save this stone
lepore [1d\]: sorry - for some reason I thought crazystone was crazywind (Ryan Li).  Oops!
globax [3d\]: let aji for later
Goprince [5d\]: finding move isnt easy
mundus [2d?\]: r6 
ofbusy [3d\]: i expect j9 at least once
GoIngo [?\]: Maybe CrazyWind will play the winner ?!
]
;W[gd]WL[2886.844]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: however, note 1: CS mannaged a decent opening
Goprince [5d\]: no way j9
ofbusy [3d\]: hmm
Goprince [5d\]: q6 here
rsun [5d\]: CS winrate should be about 58% now
firstkyu [5d?\]: g16 seems overstreched, anti bot strategy?
]
;B[ef]BL[2789.221]C[rsun [5d\]: g16 is betting that cs will not enter the corner
firstkyu [5d?\]: black must show a way to invade the corner now
GoIngo [?\]: Remi, can you tell us CS winrate?
yrirt: black plays gote
snowman [-\]: isn't this an easy game for white?
firstkyu [5d?\]: nope
ron [4d?\]: not easy
]
;W[cd]WL[2841.397]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: 54% I would say :)
rsun [5d\]: w has 60 points
ron [4d?\]: c16 typical amateur move
firstkyu [5d?\]: hehe
yrirt: c16 gote
GoRoGoRo [?\]: honte
Lumpenhund [5d\]: f16 for sction
]
;B[fd]BL[2750.863]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: if c16 works, its tons of points
NiceGoAuth [-\]: d14 59% now
yrirt: ha
rsun [5d\]: getting 60 points is a good start, but not a sure leading position
firstkyu [5d?\]: d14 would have been honte locally
misao [7d\]: who is winning?
wolokom [5k\]: but huge f 17?
rsun [5d\]: too early to tell
firstkyu [5d?\]: tell us!
ron [4d?\]: f17 
Goprince [5d\]: i prefer black
misao [7d\]: I am 7k 
rsun [5d\]: or, you should know better
firstkyu [5d?\]: can someone find something on the left side?
yrirt: w play bigger gote
firstkyu [5d?\]: using c10
yrirt: i see a stone at c10
GoIngo [?\]: thx NiceGoAuthor
Goprince [5d\]: no shoulndt be authing on left now afte c16
NiceGoAuth [-\]: bot likes b 58%, but they allways like each other games
GoIngo [?\]: but only when against humans ...
rs220675 [1d\]: cs tries to build a huge moyo
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: 55% here
pole33 [1d\]: did not he build it already?
GoIngo [?\]: thx remi
maproomad [-\]: both are playing faster tyhan I would expect
Mneme [2k\]: does f15 work ?
GoIngo [?\]: I had also expected slower pace
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: CS will play every move in 38 second max.
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: Because it does not know very well how to handle large time + byo-yomi.
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: So it is set for byo-yomi play.
Goprince [5d\]: lol Cs is being groomed for KB league?
]
;W[fc]WL[2538.713]C[GoIngo [?\]: Remi, instead youo might try 60 sec/move in first 60 moves
GoIngo [?\]: and only then 38/move
firstkyu [5d?\]: my suggestion
firstkyu [5d?\]: :)
rsun [5d\]: cs gets to seal off the top side in sente
]
;B[ed]BL[2731]C[GoIngo [?\]: of copurse, firstkyu
]
;W[ec]WL[2529.239]C[GoIngo [?\]: course
rsun [5d\]: will it cut?
Heketus [1k\]: G17
Goprince [5d\]: d17 first
Heketus [1k\]: For sure
]
;B[dc]BL[2704.553]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: now that the time planning is public, we might typ it in the goforum
firstkyu [5d?\]: :)
Heketus [1k\]: Meh
firstkyu [5d?\]: ok fist fight
]
;W[dd]WL[2508.725]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: tension is rising
GoIngo [?\]: fine with me, firstk
ofbusy [3d\]: pretty solid play from b here
rsun [5d\]: local result may be fine, but w's pyschology may be damaged
wolokom [5k\]: h 17
]
;B[df]BL[2665.815]C[Goprince [5d\]: omg was wondering bout this 
]
;W[cf]WL[2494.55]C[Heketus [1k\]: Nice
Goprince [5d\]: will he really push and cut
misao [7d\]: b is playing like a pro 
GoIngo [?\]: hear hear!
Hannoskaj [?\]: Or maybe the easiest way to combine good time management for MS time and byo-yomi would be: use max(byo-yomi period, time that would be used with the remaining time if there was no byo-ymoi).
ofbusy [3d\]: this is damezumari
yrirt: push and tenuki
]
;B[cc]BL[2645.67]C[Heketus [1k\]: Crazystone beat a 9p with 4 handi..
firstkyu [5d?\]: b playing good so far, congrats to Remi
misao [7d\]: this is just a very powerful playing 
rsun [5d\]: no, it beat 2 9p's
ofbusy [3d\]: f14
firstkyu [5d?\]: still the corner is crucial
Goprince [5d\]: it can probably win at 3 stones vs some pros
rsun [5d\]: bot vs 9p: zen 1-2; cs 2-0
]
;W[ff]WL[2437.511]C[Goprince [5d\]: not a good move here
]
;B[eg]BL[2626.188]C[RemiCoulom [3k?\]: Still 55%
misao [7d\]: wow
wolokom [5k\]: not?
]
;W[ee]WL[2431.8]C[Lumpenhund [5d\]: ohoh
Goprince [5d\]: nvm my misread
rsun [5d\]: left aji is horrible
Logros2 [4k\]: what?
yrirt: b so bad
rs220675 [1d\]: d12? looks dangerous too me
]
;B[cg]BL[2587.674]C[misao [7d\]: d12 looks a bit gentle
rsun [5d\]: it seems to me that fj does not have a large scale plan
rs220675 [1d\]: i agree, rsun
rsun [5d\]: cs has the control over the game
Goprince [5d\]: living on left side is priority
Rus558 [1k\]: go crazy stone go
misao [7d\]: maybe he is arrogant before the game 
rs220675 [1d\]: he plays the "schau mer mal"-style
Lumpenhund [5d\]: b wants connect to c17
Goprince [5d\]: and never get into a life and death prob with a bot
misao [7d\]: arrogant against bot
rsun [5d\]: his first two moves kind of showed that
ofbusy [3d\]: didnt see this coming
wolokom [5k\]: d 12
rsun [5d\]: so I said, if he loses this game, he will resort to normal opening
Mneme [2k\]: what is normal opening rsun ?
NiceGoAuth [-\]: I did not see the winrate change the last 6 moves
misao [7d\]: if KGSGoNewsSensation didn't dead, we will see CS beat its first human 6 dan tomorrow 
firstkyu [5d?\]: i still cant tell the outcome
rsun [5d\]: hoshi komoku stuff
Warfreak2 [4d\]: what's wrong with 5-3 5-4 opening
misao [7d\]: ore no mono wa ore no mono , omai no mono mo ore no mono 
Goprince [5d\]: nothing wrong
rsun [5d\]: nothing wrong
liangyan [5d\]: points
rs220675 [1d\]: i would like to see split fusekis, because i don not like bots getting moyo openings like sanrensei
Hannoskaj [?\]: It must be slightly unsettling to have your oppponent play in 38s in this kind of complex positions.
NiceGoAuth [-\]: what should w do now?
Rower [5d?\]: Zen says 46% winrate for white with B13
Naphthalin [12k?\]: how do you know?
NiceGoAuth [-\]: Yes, I have exactly the same :)
rsun [5d\]: I only said if w loses this game, he will not use 5-3 5-4 in the next game
misao [7d\]: no good choice for w Nice
misao [7d\]: choose a lesser bad choice for now 
Hannoskaj [?\]: Anyway, win or lose, that was very interesting play by CS. Imaginative, you could say.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b13 d12 b12 still not simple
rsun [5d\]: when w had to play d15 g16 shape, you know there is sth of a stretch
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b has a b8 b9 c9 b7 thing
rs220675 [1d\]: cs just told me he cannot talk, isn't that contradictory^^
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;W[bg]WL[2142.167]C[rsun [5d\]: nobi
misao [7d\]: calm down and receive the suffer for w Nice
]
;B[ch]BL[2565.143]C[rsun [5d\]: the best thing w can do is sacrifice in sente
marian [?\]: w lost already
]
;W[be]WL[2111.32]C[misao [7d\]: c11 ? 
ron [4d?\]: yeah
firstkyu [5d?\]: no
Goprince [5d\]: if c8 dies then gg
misao [7d\]: i don't know
ron [4d?\]: so bad for w
GoIngo [?\]: ScoreEstimaotr: +52.5 for Black
misao [7d\]: this looks soft and hopeless
firstkyu [5d?\]: w just lost d8????
Goprince [5d\]: yes4
rsun [5d\]: now all w needs to do is to break q4 and the center
]
;B[gf]BL[2526.519]C[Goprince [5d\]: haha
Lumpenhund [5d\]: not to ws liking
firstkyu [5d?\]: ah not annymore
]
;W[ge]WL[2098.209]C[ofbusy [3d\]: is this sente ?
ron [4d?\]: uh
ofbusy [3d\]: oh 
rsun [5d\]: bot is treating left side as yose
Ortsa [?\]: c11
]
;B[ci]BL[2507.125]C[jinroo [3d?\]: W in not that terrible shape as it looks
]
;W[hf]WL[2092.875]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, if b saves f16 then g17 cut and b16 atari are both enormous
rs220675 [1d\]: w plays calm now, i like that
Hannoskaj [?\]: Can c17 be used for ko threat?
firstkyu [5d?\]: lets count the trade
qpax [1k\]: does CrazyStone use its opponent's time to do calculations?
ron [4d?\]: ofc
Mneme [2k\]: yes
]
;B[pn]BL[2468.618]C[firstkyu [5d?\]: 44 for black
ron [4d?\]: time to invade
ron [4d?\]: suggest r8 
rsun [5d\]: cs isn't as obsessed with moyo as the other bots
Ortsa [?\]: how work craztstone ?
]
;W[dh]WL[2065.246]C[Lumpenhund [5d\]: q6 nice
rsun [5d\]: c9 simple
m09 [21k\]: Ortsa > mainly monte carlo tree search
wolokom [5k\]: hm
GoIngo [?\]: q6 longterm consequences
m09 [21k\]: if it hasn't changed
]
;B[ej]BL[2449.191]C[misao [7d\]: lol
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: 60%
globax [3d\]: not b9 first ?
]
;W[gg]WL[2058.792]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: why b9 first
rsun [5d\]: c9 is miai
Goprince [5d\]: w nice gains here
]
;B[fh]BL[2429.556]C[misao [7d\]: b gained q6 1st 
Rower [5d?\]: yep
misao [7d\]: it looks a very nice balanced winning way 
Lumpenhund [5d\]: n16?
]
;W[ld]WL[2023]C[rsun [5d\]: w has 70 points, 0 potential
Huldioho [6k\]: rank of chrazystone?
Goprince [5d\]: wrong cut no?
rsun [5d\]: ok, 2nd battle
]
;B[md]BL[2410.093]C[qpax [1k\]: 6d kgs
]
;W[mc]WL[2014.248]C[Huldioho [6k\]: ok
pete038861 [3k\]: I hate this avatar
Goprince [5d\]: should cut with n16 i think
Rower [5d?\]: l15
]
;B[ig]BL[2390.348]C[qpax [1k\]: unless it improved recently
rsun [5d\]: b gives away 20 points
marian [?\]: he can
Goprince [5d\]: but that center..
marian [?\]: no problem
rsun [5d\]: if b can make 50 on the right half of the board, it wins
ofbusy [3d\]: i dont like j13
rsun [5d\]: l16 honte
Goprince [5d\]: j13 very nice style
marian [?\]: will transform the rest into 10 more
Ortsa [?\]: How a computer can juge if a position is better than another ?
globax [3d\]: r10 time ?
billlin [8d\]: right side is too empty right now, too easy to invade
rsun [5d\]: it plays random games till the end
]
;W[kd]WL[1925.985]C[Lumpenhund [5d\]: b n5 big moyo
Mneme [2k\]: nearly random
rs220675 [1d\]: could w still live with a move like r10 or q9?
globax [3d\]: l14
marian [?\]: l14 and gg
rsun [5d\]: you can invade anywhere you like, b just needs 50 points
ofbusy [3d\]: l14 for sure
Ortsa [?\]: It seems impossible to me ... There is to much endings possible
]
;B[in]BL[2351.543]C[misao [7d\]: b is playing like takemiya
ofbusy [3d\]: lol
rsun [5d\]: yes, it is impossible, so bots are only 6d now, not pro level
Goprince [5d\]: so pro
]
;W[io]WL[1908.965]C[misao [7d\]: Takemiyaaaaaaaaaaaa
misao [7d\]: kill the pizza
Mitvailer [-\]: Yeah, either by monte carlo (play a lot of games and see if it wins often), or by intelligent algorithms to evaluate the status of the game (sort of like a score estimator, but with a lot more parameters)
Hurakami [2d\]: r8 /r12 incoming
Hannoskaj [?\]: Ortsa: when you do a poll, you do not ask each and every elector.
globax [3d\]: n5
Hannoskaj [?\]: Still, it works quite well.
rsun [5d\]: remi should send this game to takemiya for his amusement
]
;B[mo]BL[2312.737]C[globax [3d\]: 8))
billlin [8d\]: w is losing, but b has a moyo so anything can happen
Mneme [2k\]: but montecarlo is the successful way at this time
misao [7d\]: Not Japanese 9p can't even give this bot 4 stones?
marian [?\]: globax pro
Goprince [5d\]: maybe iyama?
Goprince [5d\]: :p
rsun [5d\]: no pro has beaten cs giving 4 stones since 3 years ago
ofbusy [3d\]: b is strong...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: who said 50 points?
agony [5k\]: terrifying moyo
Warfreak2 [4d\]: how about 150
GoIngo [?\]: Score Estimator
globax [3d\]: r10 possible now ?
rsun [5d\]: that's what I meant, you are welcome to invade anywhere
Goprince [5d\]: time to atach and dream
marian [?\]: its very good to learn from CS
rs220675 [1d\]: normally a 6d should be able to invade there and reduce it heavily
marian [?\]: all af his moves are logical
Goprince [5d\]: no way rs22
GoIngo [?\]: "his"??
Goprince [5d\]: invade is very hard at this point
Lumpenhund [5d\]: id r8 or so now 
]
;W[qq]WL[1818.424]C[rsun [5d\]: r8 gone
marian [?\]: yeah, its a guy
Lumpenhund [5d\]: y
]
;B[pq]BL[2291.487]C[rsun [5d\]: b gets sente to play l14
Hurakami [2d\]: this is 1st game out of 5?
]
;W[pr]WL[1815.008]C[marian [?\]: o2
rsun [5d\]: 1st game
Mneme [2k\]: yes hurakami one each saturday
globax [3d\]: i would have s4 instead of q2
globax [3d\]: to live at the side
Rower [5d?\]: The problem with Zen was that it doesn't know how to invade... I am very curious whether CrazyStone would treat a moyo differently..
Goprince [5d\]: wow w really thinks he hwas enough?
]
;B[qp]BL[2252.716]
;W[qr]WL[1795.588]C[rsun [5d\]: after b l14, w will try to live inside, die, and resign
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, w thinks he doesn't have time to just n4 in gote
Goprince [5d\]: l14
Lumpenhund [5d\]: l14 4 sure
]
;B[mq]BL[2233.118]C[rsun [5d\]: cs knows how to extract the most juice
Rower [5d?\]: n3
Goprince [5d\]: Cs my new hero
Logros2 [4k\]: I like it haha
marian [?\]: occupied
globax [3d\]: l13
]
;W[mp]WL[1765.817]C[marian [?\]: p12
Warfreak2 [4d\]: here be dragons
rsun [5d\]: cs doesn't even need to break the bottom, it just needs sente
Rus558 [1k\]: fj is a genius
m09 [21k\]: Remi > is it part of your daily research to work on crazy stone or is it a hobby?
]
;B[np]BL[2194.777]C[rsun [5d\]: that's his job
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but b has broken the bottom, or w gives the corner up in a ko
]
;W[lp]WL[1754.168]C[Hurakami [2d\]: Job?
Goprince [5d\]: lol resign
Hurakami [2d\]: someone pays him to do it :o?
rsun [5d\]: no, he finds the money himself
Hurakami [2d\]: ok
GoIngo [?\]: CrazyStone is commercial
Warfreak2 [4d\]: p2 now
]
;B[nr]BL[2175.298]
;W[rp]WL[1747.871]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: ok, o2 if you want the corner to live
Hannoskaj [?\]: Yes GoIngo, but I doubt Remi could live on those earnings alone.
Rus558 [1k\]: ko
]
;B[ro]BL[2155.924]C[GoIngo [?\]: Remi has other projects as ell
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not ko
]
;W[sq]WL[1740.453]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: t3 alive
Hurakami [2d\]: not ko
GoIngo [?\]: he is an applied mathematician
Goprince [5d\]: alive but lost alot
rsun [5d\]: I thought remi was CS
Rower [5d?\]: l14
Rus558 [1k\]: yea no ko
Mneme [2k\]: black is sente
rsun [5d\]: as in computer science ;)
misao [7d\]: lol rsun 
Goprince [5d\]: l14 still i tihnk
Ortsa [?\]: How can we talk to Remi ?
Hurakami [2d\]: this is going horrible for w
]
;B[jo]BL[2116.934]
;W[jp]WL[1732.842]C[Goprince [5d\]: omg so much profit taking before tenuki so pro
Lumpenhund [5d\]: w can connect with b9?
GoIngo [?\]: in french or in english or in c++
rsun [5d\]: pro can live in the center even after b L14, but b wins anywy
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b9 b10 
Mneme [2k\]: or in vi
]
;B[er]BL[2078.27]C[rsun [5d\]: I'd prefer vim
Goprince [5d\]: lol
Lumpenhund [5d\]: ah c9 remains
]
;W[fr]WL[1725.161]C[yrirt: cs written entirely in emacs
Goprince [5d\]: too stong
rs220675 [1d\]: that's a real stunner here
xerxes [2k\]: cs ?
]
;B[ep]BL[2058.177]C[misao [7d\]: what is c9 remains?
Ortsa [?\]: Emacs suxx :o
Mneme [2k\]: crazy stone xerxes
]
;W[fq]WL[1717.934]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: NiceGo has same moves and 70% winrate now for b
GoIngo [?\]: Remi, % please
Hurakami [2d\]: e4 atari seems wastefull
Rus558 [1k\]: how many points worth l14?
GoRoGoRo [?\]: L14
rs220675 [1d\]: looks like a players 3-4 stones stronger "teaches" a weaker one
BobWhoosta [1d\]: E4 atari prevents D4 atari.
rsun [5d\]: cs is simplifying the game
BobWhoosta [1d\]: Later.
]
;B[kf]BL[2019.073]C[GoRoGoRo [?\]: Ha!
rsun [5d\]: meaning it thinks it is winning
alfalfa [5k\]: game over
misao [7d\]: b is so strong
Rus558 [1k\]: goro, i said it first
Rus558 [1k\]: -;)
]
;W[no]WL[1706.637]C[Hurakami [2d\]: m7!
xerxes [2k\]: l14 is invade me plz
Rus558 [1k\]: rsun said it first
Rus558 [1k\]: :D
rsun [5d\]: thanks for the proper credit
]
;B[oq]BL[1999.63]C[rsun [5d\]: lol
]
;W[mn]WL[1702.699]C[Rus558 [1k\]: sorry but i find many others who said l14 :(
rsun [5d\]: np, jk ;)
Hurakami [2d\]: o7?
alfalfa [5k\]: n8
]
;B[nn]BL[1961.139]C[Rus558 [1k\]: b got around 895 points in center
]
;W[lo]WL[1690.658]C[Mneme [2k\]: :)
Hurakami [2d\]: I'd say more
Mitvailer [-\]: over 9000
Lumpenhund [5d\]: wow
GoIngo [?\]: you mean 89,5?!
Hurakami [2d\]: 362
LATEr [5k\]: 85-95
ofbusy [3d\]: n7 maybe
GoRoGoRo [?\]: @Remi: win rate?
]
;B[nm]BL[1922.365]C[rsun [5d\]: see, b made this moyo starting from e7, anyone expected that?
Rus558 [1k\]: i not
Rus558 [1k\]: i let that for rsun
rsun [5d\]: I only saw that afer f10
GoIngo [?\]: we only say that fuseki ended there
]
;W[aj]WL[1657.238]C[Rower [5d?\]: ~66% for black winnning rate with Zenith 
rsun [5d\]: that's what I said lol
Rus558 [1k\]: haha
Rus558 [1k\]: 66%!
]
;B[bh]BL[1884.045]C[Huldioho [6k\]: zenith?
RiverSheep [6d\]: w lost
Hurakami [2d\]: Time for endgame bot-fails :-)
wolokom [5k\]: a small hope
xerxes [2k\]: a10 is so big
]
;W[ah]WL[1643.348]C[rsun [5d\]: a10 is w's right, so I never counted that as b territory
misao [7d\]: I hope the CS sensei keep simple here
Lumpenhund [5d\]: a10 mistake imho
rs220675 [1d\]: exactly, hurakami!!!
]
;B[bk]BL[1845.398]C[Rower [5d?\]: 77% for black now
Rower [5d?\]: zen didn't read this :P
Rower [5d?\]: to the end
misao [7d\]: a10 mistake!?
xerxes [2k\]: theres so much room for invasion
Hurakami [2d\]: not really, xerxes
Hurakami [2d\]: the center is blocked
Hurakami [2d\]: no corners open
Hurakami [2d\]: almost no space for invasion
Hurakami [2d\]: :-)
Lumpenhund [5d\]: a10 at b9 connects?
xerxes [2k\]: come on dude
misao [7d\]: b8 is almost work 
rs220675 [1d\]: m8 is an important point now, isn't it?
GoIngo [?\]: a10 attempt in bad positiion
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, b9 b10 is too easy
BobWhoosta [1d\]: Cho chikun says "I can live twice in there".
]
;W[qh]WL[1569.628]C[Rower [5d?\]: b8 is almost, but almost not enough
Hurakami [2d\]: desperate
Mneme [2k\]: eh eh
Lumpenhund [5d\]: b9 b10 d10 c9 b8 d9 a10 
rs220675 [1d\]: whoa
misao [7d\]: almost.......
Hurakami [2d\]: I could bet 100$ this w group dies
Hurakami [2d\]: :-)
agony [5k\]: It's now or never...
rsun [5d\]: game will end in 40 moves
GoIngo [?\]: Schlachtefest now
xerxes [2k\]: just sabaki
]
;B[qi]BL[1820.568]C[misao [7d\]: hey 
NiceGoAuth [-\]: exactly the w move was suggested by NiceGo too
rsun [5d\]: assuming fj is a gentleman
misao [7d\]: this looks like a kyu desperate 
xerxes [2k\]: p11
]
;W[ri]WL[1555.489]C[yrirt: w have hope
Hurakami [2d\]: hoping for o16 cut maybe??
misao [7d\]: spirit of present time players of go 
Mneme [2k\]: there is hope until the resign
rsun [5d\]: o16 is w's only  hope, but b can rebate a bit
rs220675 [1d\]: i still think w can win
misao [7d\]: when I lose, I invade in enemy 's super thick place
]
;B[ph]BL[1782.211]C[Hurakami [2d\]: Hmmmmm
Hurakami [2d\]: this is strange
yrirt: this is a good plan
Hurakami [2d\]: still dead
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b9 b10 d10 a10 works
ron [4d?\]: poor w
ron [4d?\]: humiliated
]
;W[rg]WL[1528.395]C[Rus558 [1k\]: no
misao [7d\]: heavy heavy 
Rus558 [1k\]: 0o
]
;B[qg]BL[1762.824]C[LATEr [5k\]: its too late
misao [7d\]: Cs just wanna let him had s14 sth for yose
wolokom [5k\]: weak but
ron [4d?\]: 15kyu invasion
templorum [10k\]: trolololo
misao [7d\]: well not even work
misao [7d\]: maybe the yose move is on 1st line there
rsun [5d\]: I told fj to warm up with ginsei yesterday. he didn't
rs220675 [1d\]: that's not an invasion necessarily, but maybe just a probe to get more aji to reduce with m8 or something similiar?
misao [7d\]: lol
misao [7d\]: rsun is good like a mother
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: 72%
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b9 b10 d10 b8 seems clearer
soldepaz [11k\]: q10 would work?
soldepaz [11k\]: instead s13?
soldepaz [11k\]: *r10
rs220675 [1d\]: it seems w didn't know hoe MUCH bots love central moyos
misao [7d\]: CS is so humble for 72% only
]
;W[sh]WL[1411.487]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: or maybe not
xerxes [2k\]: n8
GoIngo [?\]: thx remi
Rower [5d?\]: Zen more humble, 70%
yrirt: lol
NiceGoAuth [-\]: 72% I have too
xerxes [2k\]: omg
yrirt: lolololool
Lumpenhund [5d\]: who would play q12?
Mneme [2k\]: he plays crazy variation also
Hurakami [2d\]: :o
GoIngo [?\]: It is hard to c rack 70 & barrier
yrirt: tesuji
BobWhoosta [1d\]: Wow, T12 interesting.
yrirt: b rekt
GoIngo [?\]: 70/
misao [7d\]: no room 
yaya [?\]: all this commenting guys are so clever...
GoIngo [?\]: 70 %
Gor [2d\]: new tactic - confuse the bot
Hurakami [2d\]: how do u know
xerxes [2k\]: s10
Hurakami [2d\]: the percentage
iceweasel [-\]: t12 smacks of desparation
]
;B[bl]BL[1724.511]C[Gor [2d\]: lol
]
;W[qf]WL[1400.184]C[BobWhoosta [1d\]: T12 means you know your bots.
iceweasel [-\]: funny time to tenuki
GoIngo [?\]: game over
Hurakami [2d\]: that was a nice move
Hurakami [2d\]: b8
rsun [5d\]: it's just a bot rebate
Hurakami [2d\]: preventing futher ko threaths
misao [7d\]: lol 
rsun [5d\]: bot will let you live, and win by 0.5
Mneme [2k\]: no ko threat ?
xerxes [2k\]: b8 is "come on, dude... really ?"
misao [7d\]: ko thrill is so useful ! 
ron [4d?\]: q13 
]
;B[pg]BL[1685.909]C[marian [?\]: w will win
ron [4d?\]: w is dead
ron [4d?\]: w will lose
]
;W[qj]WL[1383.016]C[Hurakami [2d\]: it's ko..
Hurakami [2d\]: but w cant win a ko
marian [?\]: I'm praying for him
BobWhoosta [1d\]: White is definitely not dead.
]
;B[rh]BL[1665.976]C[Hurakami [2d\]: white is dead-ish
rs220675 [1d\]: m8 gets bigger and bigger
MrMouse [1d\]: still ko
DarkHero [3k\]: look like death
Mneme [2k\]: ko so chance
]
;W[re]WL[1356.471]C[templorum [10k\]: wite just trolling b
misao [7d\]: still looks very deadkish 
misao [7d\]: even CS passed a move lol 
]
;B[rj]BL[1646.35]C[DarkHero [3k\]: :))
Rower [5d?\]: bot says, just go and  i will win anyways
]
;W[qh]WL[1351.795]C[DarkHero [3k\]: :))
Rower [5d?\]: that was zen's move as well
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: 80%
Mneme [2k\]: :)
]
;B[qk]BL[1626.772]
;W[rd]WL[1345.222]C[wolokom [5k\]: s + 30
NiceGoAuth [-\]: yes, there was already white territory on the right in the calculation
BobWhoosta [1d\]: N7
Hurakami [2d\]: n7
DarkHero [3k\]: anyways anyways
Mneme [2k\]: so white is alive
MrMouse [1d\]: fair trade?
GoIngo [?\]: the 80 % explain b8
rsun [5d\]: bot always makes you think you played a great move, but later you realize it passed one move
]
;B[ll]BL[1607.05]
;W[pf]WL[1333.016]C[templorum [10k\]: What is the "Zen" ?
Hurakami [2d\]: another bot
Hurakami [2d\]: ~4d
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if you can fit your hard drive in your territory, then you have won
misao [7d\]: bot just counted up to it is 0.5 winning on you like a 13p
NiceGoAuth [-\]: 78% from nicego plaing the same move for b
rsun [5d\]: zen is 6d as well
GoIngo [?\]: CrazyStone and Zen are the Gods of boland
Hurakami [2d\]: really
rsun [5d\]: zenbot is 3d
Hurakami [2d\]: ?
GoIngo [?\]: botland
rsun [5d\]: zen19d is 6d
Rower [5d?\]: the score estimation is funny with Zen though. ´I got the same as misao 
Hurakami [2d\]: ok
]
;B[kr]BL[1568.233]C[Rower [5d?\]: yeah, Zen is  around 6d
Rower [5d?\]: with full strenght
Rower [5d?\]: but sucks in endgame
misao [7d\]: wow
ofbusy [3d\]: this is simply bad
rsun [5d\]: zen and cs are rivals, but I think cs is a bit stronger
Hurakami [2d\]: o16?
DarkHero [3k\]: uhm
DarkHero [3k\]: 6d
GoIngo [?\]: Zen is a bit more in public - I like that
Warfreak2 [4d\]: k16 is nice
misao [7d\]: o16 is small 
misao [7d\]: lets jump out to center 
DarkHero [3k\]: look like not high too much
]
;W[nf]WL[1251.271]C[rsun [5d\]: you guys can look at CS vs yoda norimoto - CS was leading by 20 points, but returned 17 to make it look nicer for the pro
Hurakami [2d\]: Yeeaah!
wolokom [5k\]: well
]
;B[iq]BL[1548.55]C[misao [7d\]: what is bot doing......
Hurakami [2d\]: trading
]
;W[lr]WL[1239.042]C[yrirt: attacking
misao [7d\]: not LeeChangHo enough 
Hannoskaj [?\]: He decided that since it let live t12, it would kill bottom.
ofbusy [3d\]: both players humiliated ;p
replicator [1d\]: rsun - how many stones was that game?
rsun [5d\]: 4 stone
]
;B[of]BL[1529.229]C[Rower [5d?\]: down to 58% for black
]
;W[oe]WL[1231.226]
;B[og]BL[1509.672]C[GoIngo [?\]: Oh, can white group on lower side be killed?
Hurakami [2d\]: hmm
]
;W[ne]WL[1227.805]C[xerxes [2k\]: dont those bots have an estimator ?
GoRoGoRo [?\]: they use SE like us
DarkHero [3k\]: yes bot have
rs220675 [1d\]: white is still in the game
marian [?\]: w gonna win
Hurakami [2d\]: not likely
Mneme [2k\]: it will be close
Logros2 [4k\]: this seems more messy than it needs to be
DarkHero [3k\]: still think b win
ron [4d?\]: b is sure he will win
]
;B[hn]BL[1470.793]C[Siller [13k\]: What does Jigo mean for a result?
ron [4d?\]: tie
Hurakami [2d\]: Woah
Hurakami [2d\]: nice
Benzene [3d\]: i still feel crazy stone would benefit from gnugo to stop it being stupid like this
DarkHero [3k\]: :))
marian [?\]: pathetic move
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you mean, check if this is the move gnugo would play, and if so, don't play it?
]
;W[gn]WL[1177.646]C[rakmaak [1d\]: it annoys me that bots give up so many points when they are ahead.
maproomad [-\]: but komi is 6.5, so jigo is not likely
Hurakami [2d\]: lol warfreak
yrirt: good idea
GoIngo [?\]: "not likely"  ;-)
misao [7d\]: j3 suddenly bot 's fighting skill is weaker than me
]
;B[jd]BL[1431.633]C[Hurakami [2d\]: nice
Hurakami [2d\]: k16 =)
Mneme [2k\]: oh 
Hannoskaj [?\]: I'd say worrying.
Rower [5d?\]: l17 enough now
Hannoskaj [?\]: I would not expect this move from a winning bot.
Hannoskaj [?\]: Any change in percentage, Rémi?
myushkin [8k\]: .
Hurakami [2d\]: Rower = Remi?
ofbusy [3d\]: b is on tilt
Hannoskaj [?\]: No.
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: 74%
misao [7d\]: what is the wr now?
misao [7d\]: oh 
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: was 80% before M2.
Hurakami [2d\]: ok
Mitvailer [-\]: SE is fun
Hannoskaj [?\]: Thanks.
GoIngo [?\]: Rower hangs on ZEn
]
;W[je]WL[1087.373]C[Hurakami [2d\]: I don't look forward to bots like Crazystone being released to public =(. Online Go tournaments will get hurt from it, a lot
misao [7d\]: this game is now enlong 1 hour more start from yose I claim 
Hannoskaj [?\]: Do you have access to more detailed information, such as likely status of bottom?
Hurakami [2d\]: everyone will become suspicious
mmueller [1d?\]: Hi
LATEr [5k\]: guys, do u think milanmilan can win easily on even game?
Rower [5d?\]: Agreed
Siller [13k\]: Bots should have Terminator images in their profiles
Warfreak2 [4d\]: milan would win by 200
]
;B[ke]BL[1393.264]C[rs220675 [1d\]: I agree, hura...
yrirt: lol
GoIngo [?\]: hi martin
yrirt: milan +100
GoIngo [?\]: do you have fuego running?
mmueller [1d?\]: no, just joined
misao [7d\]: well 
GoIngo [?\]: i see
misao [7d\]: it looks like b just loss about 30+ points and still lead
Mneme [2k\]: typical go games
replicator [1d\]: How come there are not bots watch?  I would think MF and Gin would enjoy this
Mneme [2k\]: bot games*
Mneme [2k\]: :)
misao [7d\]: 30 maybe 
misao [7d\]: l2 gained a bit 
misao [7d\]: not lossing much as expected
]
;W[kc]WL[954.299]C[LATEr [5k\]: if b t5, w s1?
Hurakami [2d\]: b should n13
Hurakami [2d\]: or so
GoIngo [?\]: First of all CrazyStone is goinhg for winning safety, not for margin
]
;B[ie]BL[1353.423]
;W[lq]WL[932.515]C[rs220675 [1d\]: how about j9...is there something for white?
wolokom [5k\]: b +10
Hurakami [2d\]: so you'd say, J3 is for safety of win?
marian [?\]: bot lost
GoIngo [?\]: I do not fully understand, but this may be true
Mneme [2k\]: j9 k7 ?
]
;B[mr]BL[1314.921]C[misao [7d\]: lol
misao [7d\]: n2
Logros2 [4k\]: now j3 looks silly
Hurakami [2d\]: it always did :-)
]
;W[ls]WL[910.762]C[marian [?\]: wtf
RemiCoulom [3k?\]: J3 was a mistake. Win rate dropped after W M2.
Mneme [2k\]: :)
misao [7d\]: L2 drops like 2% too 
agony [5k\]: j3 was my move :p
]
;B[jc]BL[1276.138]
;W[jb]WL[887]C[misao [7d\]: should o16 first......
misao [7d\]: well the same now
Hurakami [2d\]: y
Hurakami [2d\]: o16 is big
misao [7d\]: well hmm
]
;B[nd]BL[1237.54]C[misao [7d\]: or out to center first 
Hurakami [2d\]: there we go
]
;W[pe]WL[873.327]C[misao [7d\]: k18 not enough spirit
Hurakami [2d\]: B+ now
ShenYun [3d\]: n13 
misao [7d\]: he must think very happy from the bot 's mistake 
misao [7d\]: but not counted it is not enough yet 
]
;B[mg]BL[1198.78]C[Hurakami [2d\]: Naive human beings
ofbusy [3d\]: finally
ShenYun [3d\]: how b is so stronge??
]
;W[ng]WL[852.178]C[Hurakami [2d\]: j17 now?
kostuek [?\]: b will rule us soon
Warfreak2 [4d\]: because it has so many jiggawatts
ShenYun [3d\]: the stronger the computer hardware is stronger bot?
misao [7d\]: w just looks like gained 2 big yose from CS 's mistake
]
;B[nh]BL[1159.927]C[replicator [1d\]: B+3.5
qpax [1k\]: b is as strong as usual
misao [7d\]: but still losing
rs220675 [1d\]: i hope fj will find time to review this game, he'll get a lot of ideas to improve for next time
Hurakami [2d\]: Hm
]
;W[ic]WL[827.459]C[Hurakami [2d\]: there's something funny
Hurakami [2d\]: after white T10
rakmaak [1d\]: wouldn't be surprised if b keeps giving away points until it loses
misao [7d\]: not often rakmaak 
misao [7d\]: it count very accurate about pro level 
Rower [5d?\]: ShenYun, correct. But it is not calculating variations, as that would be too slow
rs220675 [1d\]: I still think j9 and some vanilla play could give white the much-needed "Wunder"^^
]
;B[kn]BL[1121.611]C[misao [7d\]: how much need to win 
kostuek [?\]: bots are strongest in endgame for usual
ShenYun [3d\]: oh choose between the best variations?
Hurakami [2d\]: k14
ShenYun [3d\]: hehe b give points
ofbusy [3d\]: counting is cool but giving up so much points is something else
misao [7d\]: they just know better than most amateurs which is enough and which is not enough
Mneme [2k\]: for bot not really ofbusy
maproomad [-\]: CS may aim to win by half a point
ShenYun [3d\]: misao u can beat crazystone?
GoIngo [?\]: that is dangerous with Japanese rules ...
ofbusy [3d\]: maybe we'll see
twoody [3k\]: Shen yun, think of it like Mario Kart for N64, it doesn't matter how good the hardware as long as its good enough
agony [5k\]: k14
misao [7d\]: fj will get a big destroy to spirit if he lose by 0.5 after a 3 hours game
]
;W[jf]WL[738.965]C[misao [7d\]: and can't wake up before night tomorrow
agony [5k\]: 5k move ^^
just9x9 [-\]: i doubt that
Hurakami [2d\]: I said it first
Hurakami [2d\]: :P
GoIngo [?\]: misao which time zone are you?
Mneme [2k\]: I hope no misao because it's the usually way to lost against bot
]
;B[jg]BL[1087.994]C[just9x9 [-\]: he will pull out a win and sleep with a smile
Hurakami [2d\]: woah
]
;W[id]WL[710.159]C[LATEr [5k\]: can you really said a gorilla is smiling?
Hurakami [2d\]: n14
]
;B[ip]BL[1068.063]C[misao [7d\]: rsun should help CS to play after yose started
yrirt: lol
Hurakami [2d\]: intresting
misao [7d\]: b lost many rights 
Hurakami [2d\]: g5
mmueller [1d?\]: L6 was aiming at this, but B lost much on op
rs220675 [1d\]: basically s just leads with about 6 points now
Siller [13k\]: Would be funny to see Zen and CrazyStone in a Rengo against two players =)
NiceGoAuth [-\]: NiceGo tried  this too, but I do not think it works :(
Hurakami [2d\]: or h4..
qpax [1k\]: w will have to capture it, so it's worth points
nightcafe [2k\]: awesome idea, siller:D
misao [7d\]: Ko and yose are still very big problem no? NiceGo?
ron [4d?\]: t12 confused the bot
NiceGoAuth [-\]: ohh, japanese rules
Naphthalin [12k?\]: w has m15?
Hurakami [2d\]: Y
yoyoma [1d\]: Nice it doesn't matter what rules are used
Hurakami [2d\]: it matters for bots
Hurakami [2d\]: estimation =P
just9x9 [-\]: h4 amndatory?
BOThater36 [4d\]: toto is correct
yoyoma [1d\]: Forcing opponent to take stones off the board is worth the same number of points in area or territory rules
just9x9 [-\]: *mandatory
Hurakami [2d\]: just9x9 -> black can play g5
Hurakami [2d\]: and in a sense, double atari
ofbusy [3d\]: imo this cut works...
NiceGoAuth [-\]: sorry, I just was supprized
]
;W[hp]WL[557.161]C[rsun [5d\]: well looks like remi has homework to do :)
replicator [1d\]: I've seen lose because of playing by Japanese rules, but seeming to have a chinese rule algorithm
Hurakami [2d\]: D2 for black will now be sente-ish
]
;B[hq]BL[1047.304]C[Hurakami [2d\]: which is achievement on it's own
just9x9 [-\]: be cool play d2
kostuek [?\]: kill this human
Hurakami [2d\]: can't :)
CBlue [2d?\]: h1?
wolokom [5k\]: autsch
Hurakami [2d\]: black can still play g5 if w ignores
Hurakami [2d\]: so need g3
CBlue [2d?\]: h2*
CBlue [2d?\]: not 1 ~~
Hurakami [2d\]: or that..
Hurakami [2d\]: HMMM
]
;W[hr]WL[479.168]C[Hurakami [2d\]: nice
ofbusy [3d\]: if l6 was to recover from j3 mistake we could say that CS is stubborn
]
;B[ir]BL[1027.791]C[Hurakami [2d\]: nah
Hurakami [2d\]: it was just sente profit
Hurakami [2d\]: and w didn't respond to that sente
just9x9 [-\]: cs=completely stubborn
dutch2dan [?\]: clearly :p
]
;W[gq]WL[430.931]C[rs220675 [1d\]: I think now w can win this thing
Warfreak2 [4d\]: h1
Hurakami [2d\]: h1
Naphthalin [12k?\]: b can e5?
rsun [5d\]: it take more skill to lead by N points and give away N-1 points
Warfreak2 [4d\]: h1 g2 g5 g4 f1 d2 d1 stupid ko
Hurakami [2d\]: why rs22, it's gotten worse for w
Hurakami [2d\]: in the last moves
]
;B[dr]BL[989.292]C[rs220675 [1d\]: no, cs just leads by 2.5 points in my book
Ortsa [?\]: in your book ?
dyago [5k\]: i read it its good
ofbusy [3d\]: sente of b cross under
Warfreak2 [4d\]: once there was a book, from centuries ago
Warfreak2 [4d\]: a boy he took a look, and saw the face of a girl he knows
rsun [5d\]: in ancient times it was a dangerous thing to play go against officials or even the emperor
rsun [5d\]: because if you win too much, they can kill you
Miharu1 [5k\]: g1
]
;W[jr]WL[377.05]C[dyago [5k\]: has not changed a whole lot
rsun [5d\]: if you lose, they know you're not playing at your best
just9x9 [-\]: and better never jigo :)
]
;B[hs]BL[969.072]C[misao [7d\]: lol
rsun [5d\]: so you must win by no more than a few stone
rs220675 [1d\]: so you just pass, rsun,^^
Hurakami [2d\]: ^^
Warfreak2 [4d\]: come back here, i'll delete your source code!
Hurakami [2d\]: over
Hurakami [2d\]: b connect
rsun [5d\]: so CS is politically correct
NiceGoAuth [-\]: wow
woebegone [-\]: h1 = desperation?
snowman [-\]: not really
ofbusy [3d\]: no it doesnt atari
Mneme [2k\]: looks like  black connect
Hurakami [2d\]: h1 is working, woe
Warfreak2 [4d\]: h1 endgame
ron [4d?\]: w is in desperation
Hurakami [2d\]: black connects
woebegone [-\]: oh
ron [4d?\]: w should resign
misao [7d\]: what ............!!!
]
;W[gr]WL[318.78]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: g5 
Hurakami [2d\]: :|
yrirt: ??
Hurakami [2d\]: ???
Rower [5d?\]: f1...
Hurakami [2d\]: g5
yrirt: g2 wat
code9 [4d\]: k2 was not very good
misao [7d\]: CS is so strongggggggggggggg
Mneme [2k\]: :)
]
;B[fs]BL[948.317]C[ron [4d?\]: k3 
Mneme [2k\]: no 0.5 win
]
;W[jq]WL[313.132]C[ron [4d?\]: b is so stupid
Hurakami [2d\]: Oh
rakmaak [1d\]: lol
Hurakami [2d\]: what
woebegone [-\]: :-)
]
;B[mf]BL[927.512]C[Hurakami [2d\]: meh
rakmaak [1d\]: can still get some stones
misao [7d\]: lol
rs220675 [1d\]: white can still win :P
Hurakami [2d\]: well
replicator [1d\]: b goo, he got D2 in sente
replicator [1d\]: huge
Hurakami [2d\]: at least w can't play g1
dyago [5k\]: p5
ofbusy [3d\]: anyway b has finally enclosed
]
;W[mm]WL[283.009]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: for now
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe b will let w through so he can fight s12 ko
rs220675 [1d\]: but now w got sente in endgame
ron [4d?\]: b8 winning move
]
;B[ml]BL[906.885]C[Hurakami [2d\]: ^^
PinotNoir [1d\]: b still ahead
rs220675 [1d\]: t5 possible?
ron [4d?\]: risky
Hurakami [2d\]: for w? no
dyago [5k\]: h13
GoRoGoRo [?\]: After B8 all that happening around p15 so incredible
]
;W[oo]WL[230.165]C[ofbusy [3d\]: i count b+
]
;B[po]BL[886.814]
;W[on]WL[217.744]C[ofbusy [3d\]: so maybe some other points to throw away
PinotNoir [1d\]: poor benjamin
GoRoGoRo [?\]: @Remi: Winrate please!
ron [4d?\]: w didn't play any brilliant move in this game
]
;B[om]BL[867.159]C[ron [4d?\]: kind of disappointing
rsun [5d\]: winrate is 85%, even I can tell
Cubia [2d\]: CrazyStone is crazy strong ....
NiceGoAuth [-\]: 87% I have
misao [7d\]: lol
GoRoGoRo [?\]: Urgs
NiceGoAuth [-\]: sorry 78%
Mneme [2k\]: but still not pro level
rs220675 [1d\]: or fj crazy weak, cubia^^
rsun [5d\]: nicego not confident enough
misao [7d\]: white gained so much and still lose !?!?!?
dyago [5k\]: another zen center
rsun [5d\]: misao you need to look at CS vs yoda norimoto
dyago [5k\]: crazy is copying
ron [4d?\]: still easy for pros to win
Cubia [2d\]: b has 10 points more, i guess ...
Hurakami [2d\]: w 49x2, b 51x2
ron [4d?\]: but... soon we will have many kgs 9dans
Hurakami [2d\]: so, B+4
Hurakami [2d\]: I count
misao [7d\]: winning way that letting you think you done greatly but still I win you a bit is awesome
ron [4d?\]: kids copying bots pretending to be them
Cubia [2d\]: @ Hurakami thanks
mmueller [1d?\]: Fuego at 73%. But evaluation is a bit off in top left and bottom right corners
dyago [5k\]: what percentage of kgs'ers may become 9d?
pole33 [1d\]: i would like to be a bot
misao [7d\]: add me pole
misao [7d\]: I want to have a drive in my head when counting 
GoIngo [?\]: thx, martin, for letting fuego run
]
;W[so]WL[91.625]C[Hurakami [2d\]: eh
ron [4d?\]: w desperate!
rs220675 [1d\]: cool...
]
;B[rn]BL[847.171]C[Hurakami [2d\]: b confident
]
;W[hg]WL[82.949]C[mmueller [1d?\]: By my count, B has a lead
]
;B[hh]BL[827.789]
;W[if]WL[81.09]C[rs220675 [1d\]: in my book w leads 2.5 :P
Hurakami [2d\]: after this w endgame, a small lead
Hurakami [2d\]: 2pts
Hurakami [2d\]: nice, rs
just9x9 [-\]: se finally reckons LR
Naphthalin [11k?\]: w p2?
Siller [13k\]: W E5 makes the G1 cut?
ofbusy [3d\]: hm i think w wins in fact
]
;B[rh]BL[789.27]C[Hurakami [2d\]: no, w is definitely not winning
dyago [5k\]: can go either way
kostuek [?\]: human can't win
Hurakami [2d\]: k7
]
;W[si]WL[34.626]C[PinotNoir [1d\]: on counting, maybe w+8.5
rs220675 [1d\]: I think if FJ has more time, he can win this thing..but now with Byo...?!?
wolokom [5k\]: but yes 
Hurakami [2d\]: pInot, miscounted =)
]
;B[sj]BL[766.97]
;W[qh]WL[30.691]C[marian [?\]: f5
Hurakami [2d\]: seems impossible for w to win :/
Hurakami [2d\]: r15
Ortsa [?\]: s14
wolokom [5k\]: he
ofbusy [3d\]: well, if w has more points, maybe....
Hurakami [2d\]: t6
]
;B[oc]BL[728.368]
;W[ob]WL[25.253]C[GoIngo [?\]: Will it become a 0.5 score?
yrirt: b wins
Hurakami [2d\]: this ko is quite big actually
]
;B[rh]BL[708.405]
;W[sg]WL[21.365]C[Hurakami [2d\]: s17
]
;B[rf]BL[684.426]C[Hurakami [2d\]: :)
ron [4d?\]: s14 ofc
rs220675 [1d\]: but the bottom point is: fj would have been spanked if it wasn't for a very passive play of cs after it thought it hs enough, so the score will be deceiving in any way
]
;W[sf]WL[4.231]C[ron [4d?\]: doesn't do anything, but looks cool
billlin [8d\]: half point to 1.5
replicator [1d\]: S14 high level
dyago [5k\]: t6
]
;B[ai]BL[664.359]C[Hurakami [2d\]: s17 before I think worked
]
;W[bi]WL[40]OW[5]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: bots always have the same ideas :(
just9x9 [-\]: a11 did cost a point right?
PinotNoir [1d\]: yes, lose 1 pt
PinotNoir [1d\]: juz A9 better
ofbusy [3d\]: yess
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not necessarily
Mitvailer [-\]: Not really, because it makes b10 sente
]
;B[se]BL[624.68]C[Hurakami [2d\]: nvm, maybe it didnt
rsun [5d\]: as I said earlier, w will not use 5-3 5-4 opening next game
Warfreak2 [4d\]: a9 a11 and w has a sente at b10
Hurakami [2d\]: s14
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, not sente
]
;W[rf]WL[40]OW[5]C[Hurakami [2d\]: free stone?
Hurakami [2d\]: :/
ofbusy [3d\]: b lost so give points too
Hurakami [2d\]: is B trying to win by 0.5?
Hurakami [2d\]: because by my count B+0.5 now
Mneme [2k\]: of course hurakami
]
;B[rc]BL[586.036]C[replicator [1d\]: not free
]
;W[rb]WL[40]OW[5]C[jinroo [3d?\]: rsun what has 5-4 and 5-3 opening to do with anything ? regarding the outcome of this game 
jinroo [3d?\]: just nothing 
dohduhdah [2k\]: b just tries to increase the chances of winning and there are more ways to win by 0.5 than winning by any other particular margin
ron [4d?\]: b trolling
Hurakami [2d\]: well, at least b didn't lose a point
netsu [1k?\]: you could make an argument that it has a lot to do with the outcome of the game -.-
rsun [5d\]: come here next week, fj will not use that opening
]
;B[qb]BL[547.456]C[replicator [1d\]: S14 created more ko threats, but now they are wasted
dyago [5k\]: bot trolling is awesomely scary
]
;W[sc]WL[40]OW[5]C[ron [4d?\]: lol
qpax [1k\]: I think w won
jinroo [3d?\]: aha and why 
ron [4d?\]: b playing so bad
just9x9 [-\]: losing a point again
ron [4d?\]: like a 20kyu
Logros2 [4k\]: what is he doing
dyago [5k\]: q18
Hurakami [2d\]: e5
ron [4d?\]: b wants to win by ,5
]
;B[pb]BL[509.088]C[replicator [1d\]: this time did lose a point
]
;W[rc]WL[40]OW[5]C[MrMouse [1d\]: wasteing ko threat
Hurakami [2d\]: wasting*
sestir [3d\]: when bot is losing, it tries moves that make it win  unless opponent finds the correct answer, like simple forcing moves
GoRoGoRo [?\]: I want my money back - booooh CS
ofbusy [3d\]: b has no shame
kostuek [?\]: bots like to do this if win. to show humans who is boss
dyago [5k\]: a
]
;B[rs]BL[470.527]C[just9x9 [-\]: wasting ko threats as to not be able to play any ko, just self protecting him from sucking at ko :)
rs220675 [1d\]: w now by 1.5
Hurakami [2d\]: wasteing, likeing makeing = not correct, wasting,liking, making = correct
PinotNoir [1d\]: the way b play...
Hurakami [2d\]: /flies away
PinotNoir [1d\]: i think w winning
]
;W[rr]WL[40]OW[5]C[ofbusy [3d\]: hm this is something else...
rakmaak [1d\]: well that's what i said. and it happens everytime
]
;B[sn]BL[450.556]C[GoIngo [?\]: Remi, % please
gellin: w+ 1,5
rs220675 [1d\]: hurakami will eat his words^^
BobWhoosta [1d\]: T6 is ko now?
Hurakami [2d\]: not ko
dyago [5k\]: another ko
KlausB [?\]: e5 largest move by now?
rsun [5d\]: t1
]
;W[ss]WL[40]OW[5]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: not ko
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but b gains in sente
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not as good as it could be
Hurakami [2d\]: standard shape in the corner
Hurakami [2d\]: cmon guys
Rio [2k\]: ha
Hurakami [2d\]: don't be silly
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but it seems to me b is ahead by about 5
tadanobu [7k\]: ahead by komi ?
dyago [5k\]: when will humyn learn to count like computer?
]
;B[sp]BL[412.039]C[ron [4d?\]: s3 
rs220675 [1d\]: but if fj wins it's a very deceiving win, I think we all agree, right?
Mneme [2k\]: not at all
ron [4d?\]: w will lose
aaaau [1k\]: s3 
Hurakami [2d\]: w will definitely lose
ron [4d?\]: b has it all under control
dyago [5k\]: one of the best games i've watched in a while either way
rsun [5d\]: when in doubt consult se
Hurakami [2d\]: lol
alfalfa [5k\]: are you kidding?
]
;W[rq]WL[40]OW[4]C[MrMoto [1d\]: rs220675, do you mean a disappointing win?
mmueller [1d?\]: Fuego says 81%
replicator [1d\]: even if w wins, I think we can say it was a completely evenly matched game.  White did not dominate
dyago [5k\]: se died
just9x9 [-\]: se is so right atm :)
]
;B[es]BL[392.442]C[rsun [5d\]: no, I think cs dominated the whole game
rs220675 [1d\]: no, a deceiving win, because fj should have lost this game by a great margin
ron [4d?\]: what are you talking about
]
;W[is]WL[40]OW[4]C[ron [4d?\]: w will lose
MrMoto [1d\]: hm, ok
Hurakami [2d\]: w already lost
marian [?\]: se lost
rsun [5d\]: cs dominated fuseki, midgame, and yose trolling
rs220675 [1d\]: i can't say nothin because my se can't either^^
ron [4d?\]: fuseki good for w
]
;B[eo]BL[353.816]C[dyago [5k\]: never seen SE have a breakdown trying to count
ron [4d?\]: then lost control
ofbusy [3d\]: e5
aaaau [1k\]: e18 
ron [4d?\]: b reading is superior
nightcafe [2k\]: m15
]
;W[le]WL[40]OW[4]C[rsun [5d\]: the entire left side and corner were disastrous
MrMouse [1d\]: cs could be 7d?
pole33 [1d\]: people can`t be both trolls and pros, bots can
Hurakami [2d\]: think so
pokale [2d?\]: i am pokale
just9x9 [-\]: prolls :)
]
;B[lf]BL[334.495]C[rsun [5d\]: before that you can only say the fuseki was equal
]
;W[fo]WL[40]OW[4]C[yrirt: hi pokale
Mneme [2k\]: of course pros can troll
ron [4d?\]: cheater [1p\] is a proll
Hurakami [2d\]: Pole, if you think pro's don't troll, you haven't seen enough pro games :-)
Ortsa [?\]: you are potatoe
]
;B[dp]BL[314.992]
;W[ko]WL[40]OW[4]C[ron [4d?\]: bad move
just9x9 [-\]: SE gained condfidence again :))
]
;B[jn]BL[295.625]
;W[lm]WL[40]OW[4]C[ron [4d?\]: actually w deserves to lose
KlausB [?\]: ron: based on ...?
]
;B[km]BL[276.132]C[jinroo [3d?\]: stop your hate commentary pls quite annoying
jinroo [3d?\]: @ron
dyago [5k\]: i think its funny
jinroo [3d?\]: good for you
dyago [5k\]: sorry jinroo
]
;W[gs]WL[40]OW[4]C[NiceGoAuth [-\]: what is the status of bottom right?
]
;B[qh]BL[256.795]C[Hurakami [2d\]: B+3.5
Mneme [2k\]: alive
rs220675 [1d\]: well, I agree now, b will win
Warfreak2 [4d\]: alive
ofbusy [3d\]: hope the game end soon gets boring
NiceGoAuth [-\]: is it ko
dyago [5k\]: no ko
qpax [1k\]: no ko
Navegante [4k\]: no ko
ron [4d?\]: t2 r1 
Hurakami [2d\]: not ko, cmon
MrMoto [1d\]: P2
Mneme [2k\]: t2 r1
Hurakami [2d\]: reading 101
]
;W[or]WL[40]OW[4]C[Hurakami [2d\]: >.>
PinotNoir [1d\]: B T2, w R1
NiceGoAuth [-\]: ups, I see
]
;B[os]BL[236.962]C[ron [4d?\]: r1 
dyago [5k\]: ko now
Mneme [2k\]: no
yrirt: troll like a beast
Mneme [2k\]: white take
Siller [13k\]: Cloned the game, B is winning by 8 points with scoring tool
qpax [1k\]: b had p2 sente
yrirt: get that trolling level up
Ortsa [?\]: ko in 10 moves
ron [4d?\]: w should resign
dyago [5k\]: Siller reads the last page of a the book thx
rs220675 [1d\]: I don't think w has time to count
NiceGoAuth [-\]: and now
alfalfa [5k\]: r1 lives,  why is he waiting
Hurakami [2d\]: he's counting
]
;W[qs]WL[40]OW[3]C[Hurakami [2d\]: he doesn't want to lose by 15pts
Hurakami [2d\]: so he's counting if he should resign
rsun [5d\]: he's waiting for the kibitz to reach a consensus
ron [4d?\]: can always resign at the last move
dyago [5k\]: b10
ron [4d?\]: against a bot it's not rude
Hurakami [2d\]: but it's not classy
yrirt: resign at scoring for best style
Hurakami [2d\]: :-)
ron [4d?\]: because the bot has no feelings
GoRoGoRo [?\]: rsun [5d\]: he's waiting for the kibitz to reach a consensus
GoRoGoRo [?\]: hahaha
]
;B[op]BL[198.095]
;W[mo]WL[40]OW[3]C[GoRoGoRo [?\]: rsun = kibitz[9p\]
rs220675 [1d\]: i wonde...was the one move where fj lost it?
Hurakami [2d\]: t5
rsun [5d\]: *bows*
Hurakami [2d\]: and pass-pass
]
;B[ak]BL[178.301]
;W[ag]WL[40]OW[3]C[qpax [1k\]: SE regained consciousness
dyago [5k\]: b8
qpax [1k\]: b wins
]
;B[so]BL[158.931]C[ron [4d?\]: I told you c16 looks nice, but was actually bad
]
;W[ms]WL[40]OW[3]C[ron [4d?\]: lots of problems with that shape
just9x9 [-\]: well, SE most conscious when he admids defeat :)
kostuek [?\]: left side went wrong and didn't get better
Mneme [2k\]: ron you are a troll of course
]
;B[ns]BL[139.54]
;W[ps]WL[40]OW[3]C[ron [4d?\]: c16 losing move
rs220675 [1d\]: @kostuek: I agree
Hurakami [2d\]: maybe b can tenuki now
]
;B[nq]BL[120.048]C[Hurakami [2d\]: and let a human win =(
]
;W[qe]WL[40]OW[3]C[Hurakami [2d\]: eh
Siller [13k\]: Why did the bot think so long about O3?
]
;B[mi]BL[100.689]C[rs220675 [1d\]: now fj knows how gu li feels :P
]
;W[ai]WL[40]OW[3]C[Hurakami [2d\]: lol
KlausB [?\]: counting ...?
ofbusy [3d\]: ok b wins
Mneme [2k\]: because he use all it's 38 seconds
ron [4d?\]: n11 lol
ron [4d?\]: b such a troll
rsun [5d\]: 3.5
ofbusy [3d\]: if he plays in his territory a bot wins
]
;B[bj]BL[81.315]
;W[ln]WL[40]OW[3]C[rsun [5d\]: then 2.5
ron [4d?\]: play inside his own territory for ultimate humiliation
rsun [5d\]: 1.5
]
;B[pm]BL[61.897]C[pole33 [1d\]: i once played in my own territory and lost by 0.5
Mneme [2k\]: :)
]
;W[]WL[40]OW[3]C[just9x9 [-\]: lol
PinotNoir [1d\]: who win 1.5?
dyago [5k\]: .5 is enough
ron [4d?\]: q7 pro move
rsun [5d\]: can't win by 0.5
rsun [5d\]: 3.5, pass, then 1.5
]
;B[]BL[37.723]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb][gb][hb][ib][kb][lb][mb][pb][qb][sb][ac][bc][cc][dc][gc][hc][jc][lc][ad][bd][ed][fd][hd][jd][sd][ae][ce][fe][he][ie][se][af][bf][gf][go][gp][ip][hq][iq][kq][ir][kr][sr][hs][js][ks][rs]TB[dg][kg][lg][dh][eh][ih][jh][kh][lh][mh][oh][di][ei][fi][gi][hi][ii][ji][ki][li][ni][oi][pi][dj][gj][ij][jj][kj][lj][mj][nj][oj][qj][ck][dk][ek][fk][gk][hk][ik][jk][kk][lk][mk][nk][ok][pk][rk][sk][al][cl][dl][el][il][kl][nl][ol][pl][ql][rl][sl][am][bm][dm][jm][qm][rm][sm][an][bn][qn][ao][bo][do][qo][ap][bp][aq][bq][cq][ar][br][cr][as][bs][cs][ds]C[ron [4d?\]: pity
fj [6d\]: well... that's a bad start :(
ron [4d?\]: maybe b was just trying to make w feel better
Mneme [2k\]: nice game
fj [6d\]: thx
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